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Carlisle: Changing Demographics In Upstate Could Spell Doom For Hoffman

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When you get tired of counting cows, there are always the barn silos to start in on. The cows and the silos are always there, like sentinels watching over the rock strewn fields… Through verdant green summers, drop dead beautiful fall leaves, long, hard, freezing cold winters and the dark brown horrible season known simply as “Mud”, the cows and the silos are a constant.

A long drive across the roof of New York State along US Route 11, the spine of New York’s vast 23rd Congressional District will tell you much of what you need to know about tomorrow’s election to replace John T. McHugh, the district’s long time, middle of the road Republican congressman. The two lane highway will take you through rocky farmland, by a vast government-funded rural enterprise (otherwise known as Fort Drum), fading talc mining towns, thriving college towns, skirt the vast and largely unpopulated northeastern Adirondacks and, did we mention, more rocky farmland through a Congressional district that has not seen a Democrat in Congress since well before my grandmother was born 110 years ago.

A map of New York's 23rd Congressional District.

A map of New York's 23rd Congressional District.

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Over the weekend, the Republican Party’s conservative wing succeeded in getting the mainstream Republican candidate Dede Scozzafava to step down as the Republican candidate. This clears the way for right wing carpetbagger, Doug Hoffman to secure the Republican vote.  The question is will Sarah Palin (of Alaska), Tim Pawlenty (of Minnesota) and other assorted outsiders succeed in keeping the district in GOP hands? If the election were held thirty years ago, when I left the North Country for what the government refers to as a non-farm job, there would be no question.  Republican, slam dunk.  But tomorrow? Maybe not.  At least I wouldn’t bet the snowmobile on it.

Upstate New York is sometimes considered the only area of the country that has not seen the upside of the economic booms of the last thirty years. The decaying cities along the New York State Thruway with their rusting factories are a visible leading indicator that the tech and banking surges that have enlivened other regions have never reached this, well, hard to reach, frost bitten valley extending from Lake Ontario to Lake Champlain.  (My late mother called this region, with no affection whatsoever, “the Tundra”. I’ve always preferred “The Canadian Riviera.”)  The good paying union jobs at Massena’s aluminum factories are largely gone.  What’s left are farming, war fighting, small business and education.  The first three industries have been reliably Republican in the past with the college professors generally a lonely progressive voice howling like a lone brown bear in an Adirondack blizzard.

So how will this normally reliably Republican district vote tomorrow? Before Scozzafava stepped down the polls had Hoffman and the Democratic candidate, Bill Owens neck and neck with the apostate (abortion, women’s rights, immigration) Scozzafava at 20%. Take out Dede, the wisdom goes and those 20% will flow to the more conservative candidate. Right? Well, maybe.

The latest polls have the outsider, Hoffman up by 5% but the 23rd district has grown more liberal over the last thirty years. The four major SUNY colleges (Plattsburgh State, Potsdam State, Canton Tech and Oswego State) and two private institutions (St. Lawrence University and Clarkson University) have all been growing their staff and in many cases the size of their entire student bodies, many of whom come from and do vote in the district.  Redistricting has added more college towns south of the Thruway to the map.  In a recent conversation with a university administrator living in the district, he allowed that he would not dare to put up a sign in his yard for his favored presidential candidate in 2008 because he didn’t want to horrify his neighbors. In my isolated North Country world of the 1970’s that would have meant no McGovern or Carter signs hammered into the permafrost.  But what my friend was saying to me was that he was keeping his McCain sign in the garage.

The district essentially retains whatever limited economic well-being it has through the largesse of government, both federal and state. Farm subsidies mean a lot.  Fort Drum, (in the district because of the efforts of an eminently reasonable Republican congressman of the seventies, David O.B. Martin, who would have been run out of town by Palin & Co.) is the principal economic engine of the district.  And guess what? Fort Drum’s transition from a refuge from Vietnam for sixties era National Guard trainees to a full-fledged front line base for Iraq and Afghanistan means, you got it, that there has been an influx of African-American and Latino soldiers and their families into the region.  Both groups tend to skew toward the Democrats.  Furthermore, the region’s stubborn rural poverty means one more thing, a high percentage of struggling single mothers who might have more tolerant views on abortion and government spending than their more conservative parents who consistently let their social views override their own local economic interests.

Tiny Potsdam, New York and other villages are national focus in congressional contest.

Tiny Potsdam, New York, and other villages, are national focus in congressional contest.

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Does this mean Hoffman will lose? Not necessarily.  He got a boost from the  GOP purists who ran Scozzafava out of the race this weekend. But Hoffman is hardly a North Country boy and the good ole boys like their guns and they like their own. In a stunning lack of preparation and respect for the region’s top newspaper, he was unable to answer a set of questions posed by the highly respected Watertown Daily Times, questions that had been published for the world to see prior to his arrival.  And, if there is one thing proud, independent North Country denizens might dislike more than government telling them what to do, it might well be taking advice from outsiders.  I wouldn’t bet my other snowmobile on Hoffman losing.  But, I’m calling this one a toss-up.

Watch closely – this has national implications. The conservatives have made the 23rd a test of ideological purity.  Joe Biden is in on the act, in Watertown to support Owens today.  If the GOP loses here tomorrow, there will be some entertaining privately-funded intraparty fratricide coming to a Fox News Channel near you.  Think Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich in a mud fight to the death.  And, let me tell you from experience.  If there is one thing the North Country produces in abundance and quality it is the mud of the springtime melt.

Bruce Carlisle is the CEO of www.ConferenceHound.com and a leading Internet communications consultant. He grew up in the 23rd in Canton, NY and graduated from St. Lawrence University in 1978. He currently resides in Marin County outside of San Francisco, CA.

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Bruce Carlisle is a Digital Marketing Entrepreneur and Consultant. Founder of SFInteractive, Digital Axle and ConferenceHound.com. Nationwide consultant to advertising agencies on digital change management. Blogger, College Hockey Fan. B.A. from St. Lawrence University.

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Post Published: 02 November 2009
Found in section: Opinion, Politics
  • Chrs

    I expect Owens to win this by a nose. My position is that Baby Boomers, in general, have spent too much and not saved enough, and thus expect government to pay for their retirement. The 23rd is no different from the rest of the nation in this regard.

  • Ronald Schofell

    Theres no way that any true republican should ever vote for anyone other than Mr Hoffman, when the traitor and turncoat Ms Scozzafava showed her true colors by siding with the democrats that should have told people that she was never a true republican to start with making shady deals with democrats and betraying her party. I for one had no intention of voting for her just on her stance on same sex marriage and others . And i hope in the upcoming assembly election that we can throw her out then too, Noone with her values and scruples should be in office

    • cathyvv

      uh—Didn't the GOP turn traitor to her candidacy first? Seems to me that's what happened. GOP has no values or scruples; Scozzafava finally realized it. Too bad it took her so long. Too bad you can't see it.

      You are one of those GOP people who don't want government interfering with your life, but think it's just fine for government to interfere with other people's lives if you don't agree with how they are living their lives. Grow up. Marriage is a religious institution. All the state does is license a contracted union between two people. And that isn't any of your business.

    • Heleric

      Her values and scruples? Who died and left you boss. Seriously, how can you people feel so superior to every other human being that you feel everyone should be like you. Some people fall in love with the same sex, deal with it. Some women choose to abort a pregnancy rather take it to term, too bad if you don't like it. Try minding your own business. The gentleman above me hit the nail on the head. You don't want government in YOUR life but it's OK for them to invade OTHER peoples lives. You people disgust me.

  • soxfan

    What's wrong with same sex marriage? I have many friends here in Massachusetts who happen to be gay and married. They are really nice people and very happy to be married.

  • Andyman

    Sounds like a very interesting race.

    I happen to know for a fact that the author of the piece, this Carlisle guy, listens to rock and roll music. So while I find this blog to be informative, I think it has been colored by his listening to the Jefferson Airplane.

  • northcountrygrrrl

    The strategy of the extremist Republicans:

    Here is how ignorance works: First, they put the fear of God into you—if you don't believe in the literal word of the Bible, you will burn in hell. Of course, the literal word of the Bible is tremendously contradictory, and so you must abdicate all critical thinking, and accept a simple but logical system of belief that is dangerous to question. A corollary to this point is that they make sure you understand that Satan resides in the toils and snares of complex thought and so it is best not try it.

    Next, they tell you that you are the best of a bad lot (humans, that is) and that as bad as you are, if you stick with them, you are among the chosen. This is flattering and reassuring, and also encourages you to imagine the terrible fates of those you envy and resent. American politicians ALWAYS operate by a similar sort of flattery, and so Americans are never induced to question themselves. That's what happened to Jimmy Carter—he asked Americans to take responsibility for their profligate ways, and promptly lost to Ronald Reagan, who told them once again that they could do anything they wanted. The history of the last four years shows that red state types, above all, do not want to be told what to do—they prefer to be ignorant. As a result, they are virtually unteachable.

    Third, and most important, when life grows difficult or fearsome, they (politicians, preachers, pundits) encourage you to cling to your ignorance with even more fervor. But by this time you don't need much encouragement—you've put all your eggs into the ignorance basket, and really, some kind of miraculous fruition (preferably accompanied by the torment of your enemies, and the ignorant always have plenty of enemies) is your only hope. If you are sufficiently ignorant, you won't even know how dangerous your policies are until they have destroyed you, and then you can always blame others.

    A generation ago, the big capitalists, who have no morals, as we know, decided to make use of the religious right in their class war against the middle class and against the regulations that were protecting those whom they considered to be their rightful prey—workers and consumers. The architects of this strategy knew perfectly well that they were exploiting, among other unsavory qualities, a long American habit of virulent racism, but they did it anyway, and we see the outcome now—Cheney is the capitalist arm and Bush is the religious arm. They know no boundaries or rules. They are predatory and resentful, amoral, avaricious, and arrogant. Lots of Americans like and admire them because lots of Americans, even those who don't share those same qualities, don't know which end is up. Can the Democrats appeal to such voters? Do they want to? The Republicans have sold their souls for power. Must everyone?

    -Jane Smiley 2004

    • Heleric

      Thanks for the post, that's some powerful and prophetic stuff there.

  • woodchucksage

    What changing demographics?? Have you looked at the voter enrollment lately?? You're listening WAY too closely to June O'Neill's propaganda! I'm a conservative Republican and I won't vote for Hoffman or Owens. I will vote for "None fo the Above". Regrettably, Uber-Nerd Hoffman will win and he won't have the first idea of what to do when the national spotlight is turned off. Anyway you cut it, this race is totally inconsequential in the grander scheme of things. It will embolden the phony Conservative Party, but that's about it.

  • alberta treadway

    I was a republican for years! voted for One republican/one Demacrate Senator for my state. Does that make me a traitor to? Hoffman doesn't even know the districts problems, an isn't from the district, an isn't even a darn republican! So, is it Ok for another State,Couttry or Nation now to select your Senator or Representative an push out the local or more moderate candidate? Have we really come to this shameful place in History? Is this now what the Grand Old Republican party is about? Cheat,Steal,Lie an take any thing you want, when you want it!

  • Greg F

    Well I live in the 23rd and got a good laugh at the "highly respected Watertown Daily Times" line.

  • Dean McLellan

    Great article Bruce! I prefer the "Canadian Riviera," but sometimes I flip flop. I'm watching closely!

  • Doug W.

    I agree with Chris; Owens by a nose. Labor has been part of the winning coalition in NY-23 for a couple decades. Republicans, such as John O'neill and John McHugh had solid union support. This vote was split evenly between Scozzafava and Owen, until Dede bowed out. The GOTV machine could be the difference.

  • D.B. Wells

    Funny, what you accuse the Conservatives of, the same can be done of the Democrats and their P.A.C.’s with their intrusion into the North Country’s politrical arena. Bet your point of view is largely based on what side of the road your on, My point of view is that as is common practice, the day after the election, our area, our needs and our opinions will be forgotten about till the next election, one thing they will not forget, is to take our tax money and natural resources with them when they leave

  • gg3

    Andyman….it wasn't the Jefferson Airplane, but lots and lots of Grateful Dead…just tons of it, and of course some Poustette Dart, but nobody cares about them.